TodayPlus Boards v2

Well, I had some time today so I tweaked the standard slider "skin" that is supplied with the latest version of TodayPlus v0.9.8.  The changes I have made for the most part are pretty basic.

 - Added support for 3 weather feeds
 - Adjusted the layout of the Uptime information, no more overlap
 - Using the retired BBC icons :)
 - Added a Launcher section.  It supports 2 groups of 11 shortcuts.  It is using the proposed naming method in srs's post (http://forums.jhollin1138.com/viewtopic.php?p=1882#1882) of this thread.
To use the new launcher section, you will have to "name" your shortcuts in your config.txt as follows:
shortcut,apps-1-1,\windows\iexplore.exe,Internet
shortcut,apps-1-2,\Windows\Start Menu\Programs\Calc98.lnk,Calculator
"
"
"
shortcut,apps-1-11,\Windows\notes.exe,Notes

shortcut,apps-2-1,\windows\start menu\programs\games\solitaire.lnk,Solitaire
shortcut,apps-2-2,\windows\start menu\programs\games\minesweeper.lnk,Minesweep
"
"
"
shortcut,apps-2-11,\windows\start menu\programs\games\hearts.lnk,Hearts
You will also need to place the "launch active.png" icon I posted (http://forums.jhollin1138.com/viewtopic.php?p=2579#2579) here into your Color-3D folder.

Edit: Removed the skin file, see my post (http://forums.jhollin1138.com/viewtopic.php?p=2677#2677) below.

Edit: Reattached the missing attachments and fixed links

I love this skin, but for some reason the POOM section does not work with latest version of TD+ 0.10.0

Can you take a look at your skin and update for 0.10.0?

Thanks - JTod

I am not to sure why it would have a problem with POOM.  I didn't change anything in the POOM section.  I just really added the Launcher region.

I haven't had time to install v0.10.0 yet.  I will see what I can do this evening after I put my little one to bed (she is 9 1/2 months old).

SRS indicated at one time that he was going to move the POOM settings out of the config file and include them in the skin.  I suspect that might be the problem.  I'll figure it out later.

Thanks!

As I suspected, srs did indeed include the POOM settings in the "skin."  He also has included the Launcher setting in the latest Slider "skin."  I really didn't see a need to revise my tweaked version, however I said I would so here you go.  I have revised my skin to support 3 groups of 11 shortcuts.

Edit: Removed the skin for version v0.10.x, see this post (http://forums.jhollin1138.com/viewtopic.php?p=3955#3955) for a revised version.

Edit: Removed the skin for v0.9.8 since this version is no longer supported.  See this post (http://forums.jhollin1138.com/viewtopic.php?p=5501#5501) for similar version of this skin for v0.11.0 and later.

I'm using your tweaked skin and it is just what I wanted, well it would be if the date size at the top looked like your screen shot without the clock icon AND and the TP icons stayed permanently on.

Do you know where this setting is controlled?

I'm using Todayplus 10.1

Thanks,
Ian.

You caught me.  I put together my tweaked slider skin for v0.10.x in like 5 min.  I'll see what I can do to modify the skin for v0.10.x to be more like the one in the screen capture.  It shouldn't be hard to make the changes you asked for.

Quote from: ihenryI'm using your tweaked skin and it is just what I wanted, well it would be if the date size at the top looked like your screen shot without the clock icon AND and the TP icons stayed permanently on.

Do you know where this setting is controlled?

I'm using Todayplus 10.1

Per your request, I have revised my tweaked Slider "skin" for version v0.10.0.  The POOM section is still not like the screen capture, but everything else is pretty close.  Even though the "skin" says it is for version v0.10.0, it works fine with v.0.10.1.

Just downloaded the tweaked skin and it's perfect.  Even the date and icons at the top are sorted too.

Thanks again.
Cheers,
Ian.

No problem.

jhollin,

Quick question.  I am using your skin.  For some reason, it does not seem to use all of the today screen when weather, agenda, system meters, and launcher are activated.  It seems to leave about a 1/4 inch of empty space at the bottom of the today screen.  Do you see this as well?

JTod

JTod,

Which version of TodayPlus are you running?  If you are running TodayPlus v0.10.x, are you using my revised skin?

jhollin,

That fixed it.  I installed the updated skin and all is well.

Thanks,

JTod

There seems to be a bug :(

If you select and de-select the launcher icon the quick launch programs remain at the bottom regardless of the state of the icon.  I would try to fix it if I knew where - I'm fairly new to TD+.

Also how do you control which clocks are displayed and in which order - I know it is only going to display 5, I've got 8 defined in my config but it seems to display them in some strange order - and now after tweaking the skin it is displaying the name of the weather region selected - I think I've broken it!

Thanks,
Ian.

Quote from: ihenryIf you select and de-select the launcher icon the quick launch programs remain at the bottom regardless of the state of the icon.  I would try to fix it if I knew where - I'm fairly new to TD+.

Ok, I figured out what was wrong.  I originally, in v.0.9.8, had the Launcher defined as region 15.  When I combined the POOM section for v0.10.0, region 15 was already in use.  I renamed the Launcher region to 16 and I forgot to change the "imagebutton" regions.  The sections (there are 2 places) that looks like this:if,region,15,=,0
imagebutton,142,2,launch active.png,t,15,4,999,-1
else
imagebutton,142,2,launch.png,t,15,4,0,-1
endif
Should look like this:if,region,16,=,0
imagebutton,142,2,launch active.png,t,16,4,999,-1
else
imagebutton,142,2,launch.png,t,16,4,0,-1
endif

Quote from: ihenryAlso how do you control which clocks are displayed and in which order - I know it is only going to display 5, I've got 8 defined in my config but it seems to display them in some strange order - and now after tweaking the skin it is displaying the name of the weather region selected - I think I've broken it!

Ok, to adjust the clocks you are displaying, you need to make some changes.  You can either modify the skin or change the numbering of the "time" defined in your config file.  Currently, my tweaked skin is displaying "time" for your system time, 4, 5, 6 and 7 (in that order).   To change the skin, here the basic section to look for:
image,<x>,<y>,analogclock.png,t
time,<x>,<y>,<n>,analog,hourhand.png,minutehand.png
text,<x>,<y>,[name],c
time,<x>,<y>,<n>,2,c
Where <x> and <y> is the position and <n> is the "time" number to display.  So to display "time" 3 in the second clock, it should look like this:
image,59,11,analogclock.png,t
time,74,27,3,analog,hourhand.png,minutehand.png
text,74,0,[name],c
time,74,42,3,2,c
Hopefully that makes sense.

I have attached the corrected skin below.

Edit: Removed the skin since the version of TodayPlus it was written for is no longer supported.  See this post (http://www.dark-mojo.com/todayplus/viewtopic.php?p=5501#5501) for similar version of this skin for v0.11.0 and later.

ihenry & JTod,

I am currently tweaking my already tweaked slider skin.  One of the things I am doing is trying to take better advantage of v0.10.1.  Since the two of you seem to use my skin, is there anything you would like me to add, adjust or include?  (Obviously, anyone else can make a request as well.)

BTW, I have fixed the scrollbar from showing up if the system information region is hidden.  I will release it fixed, after I am done tweaking.

Hi,

Thanks for the bug fixes - the skins is working great and yeah there were a couple of things - now you mention it :D
Only some simple things that other skins (Logika) have...

1. More RSS feeds 10 perhaps? With the final one display 3 columns of stock quotes
2. A Page counter too would be handy
3. A Last Refresh date / time

Thanks again,
Ian.

Quote from: ihenry1. More RSS feeds 10 perhaps? With the final one display 3 columns of stock quotes

The first part is easy with v0.10.1 since it allows you to set a variable to represent the number RSS.  The skin just needs to recognize the variable.  If you would like 10 feeds, you will just set the variable to the number of feeds you would like.  This is one of the reasons I am Re tweaking the skin.

The second part is a little tougher since I will have to generate a special set-up for a single feed to just display stocks.  It will work fine with an "if, then, else" statement.  The problem is the skin will have to know which RSS to use to display stocks.  So if I set the skin up to display RSS 10 for stocks, and you use RSS 9, it will display the wrong thing.  There might be another way, let me think about it.

Quote from: ihenry2. A Page counter too would be handy

Not a problem, I will add something.

Quote from: ihenry3. A Last Refresh date / time

Not sure how to do this one, I am sure there is a way.  I'll figure it.  Hey, everybody wants a challenge.  :D

jhollin,

Thanks for asking.  The skin actually meets my needs at the moment.  I keeping thinking about it.  Nice job with your skin.

JTod

Quote from: JTodThanks for asking.  The skin actually meets my needs at the moment.  I keeping thinking about it.  Nice job with your skin.

Thanks, I have always been one of those that can't leave well enough alone.  My wife is really beginning to hate TodayPlus.  I think I have been spending to much time tweaking the slider skin and not enough time talking to her. :D

jhollin,

My wife has the same concern.  She initially thought TodayPlus was really cool.  Now, she remarks "are you messing with that thing again."  It is kind of funny actually.

Anyway, I came up with an idea for your skin.  This is a similar concept as some other skins, but some of the ther implementations of this seem too cluttered.

Thoughts?

John

I was already thinking about having a calendar displayed.  I was thinking of having the owner information displayed next to it.

One of the things I am always trying to do is maximize some of the space available for POOM.  I might actually have the region that is currently displaying the weather information.  During a reset, the owner/calendar is displayed.  Along with POOM, System information and the Launcher region.  Selecting weather, RSS or time will simply replace the owner/calendar section and will display in the same region.

How does that sound?

Sounds cool.  I like having as much space available for POOM as well.  Not crazy about having the owner info displayed, but I'd like to see the skin before making a judgment.  Skin away jhollin.  Looking forward to it!

Thanks - JTod

If not the owner information, then what would you like to see?

I guess I could steal a page from Blazingwolf's Calendar skin and put the "icon controls" there, but I rather be able to "turn-off" the calendar to get a little more POOM area.  I could put the current weather and time and "icon controls" there like Lordtwisted's skin, but I have the same problem.  Maybe I will just put a picture of my daughter there and not you change it.  :lol:

I too like the Calendar+ skin, but without the ability to turn the calendar off you do lose a large part of a small screen.  So having a calendar button could be useful.

I don't see Owner info as being important either - I think we all know our own names! :)  And there are much more interesting things that could be populated on our today screen.

The POOM space & format is crucial which is the main reason I use this skin too.  The Calendar / Task Info, perhaps could be altered to have tasks as a seperate button?

I think have all the clock info in the config would be better - so make the local one defined there - makes upgrading skin / TP+ easier.

Does anyone know if upgrading to 10.2 causing any problems / requires any chances to your tweaked skin?

Quote from: ihenryDoes anyone know if upgrading to 10.2 causing any problems / requires any chances to your tweaked skin?

The last skin update should run fine under v0.10.2.  I am currently running my tweaked skin and v0.10.2.  Are you having a problem?

Well I was thinking about what to do with the space next the calendar.  I think I have idea; I will base the layout on Lordtwisted's skin.  I am going to put current weather information and a clock to display a clock of your choice (maybe arrow right and left to change which clock is displayed).

As far as clocks go, I am going to going to do something similar to RSS feeds and allow you to advance to the next set of clocks.

Now I just need to stop packing the house for a move, and find the time.  If not before, I probably have time around Christmas shutdown.

Sounds good Jim.  One other option could be to inclujde a few system monitors under the date as illustrated below.  I personally think having a separate system monitors section is overkill and takes away from POOM.  Just a thought.  I look forward to whatever you come up with.  Good luck with your move.

JTod

Just upgraded to TP+ 10.2 and now I've got a scoll bar appearing when I select my agenda.  Has anyone else noticed this?  

Other posts suggest it is releated to the skin???

Quote from: ihenryJust upgraded to TP+ 10.2 and now I've got a scoll bar appearing when I select my agenda.  Has anyone else noticed this?

I am not seeing scrollbars.  Here is a capture.

Edit: Removed attached image!

After further playing around, this only happened yesterday so it must be specific to the number of items being displayed and the size it takes up.  Also it seemed to happen when I turned all the other items off, especially with the quick launcher off.

Maybe I can set my date back and troubleshoot from there, any idea where I should start to look?

Cheers,
Ian.

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I notice at the beginning of this thread that the weather icons (BBC?) are transparent. How did you do this. I use the BBC set (with the Twisted skin) which are in bmp format but they have a grey background.
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QuoteI notice at the beginning of this thread that the weather icons (BBC?) are transparent. How did you do this. I use the BBC set (with the Twisted skin) which are in bmp format but they have a grey background.

Martin I Pettinger,

 What ever part you want transparent the color needs to be this:

255,0,255

pretty much and graphic editor will do i use paint shop pro for all my graphics. It dosent matter if the pic is .bmp or .png to be transparent.
here is a pic to show you.

Quote from: Martin I Pettinger-
I notice at the beginning of this thread that the weather icons (BBC?) are transparent. How did you do this. I use the BBC set (with the Twisted skin) which are in bmp format but they have a grey background.
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As Lordtwisted stated, the background for the BBC icons are indeed not pink.  You could make them pink, or you could use a different "color-transparent" statement.

All you really need to do is use a different "color-transparent" statement that represents the background color. In the case of the BBC icons the color is 153_153_204 and not 255_0_255. Keep in mind that all the other control icons have the pink background. So I normally change the color, load the icon and then change the color back. It looks something like this:
color,transparent,153_153_204
todayicon,8,11,,t
color,transparent,255_0_255.

Edit: Clarified my first paragraph.

Is there an image of your new skin?  Also, and this is embarrassing, after unzipping your skin I got a txt file.  What do I do with it or where do I copy it to on my ppc?

Thanks.

Quote from: bookieIs there an image of your new skin?  Also, and this is embarrassing, after unzipping your skin I got a txt file.  What do I do with it or where do I copy it to on my ppc?

The skin that JTod, ihenry and I discussed is still currently being developed.  There is an image of my skin I have released to date on this post (http://dark-mojo.com/TodayPlus/viewtopic.php?p=2612#2612).  The image on this post (http://dark-mojo.com/TodayPlus/viewtopic.php?p=4331#4331) is also pretty close to what I have released to date, with the exception for the weather icons and the left arrow in the launcher region.

Put the skin file, in the skin folder under TodayPlus. (Program Files\TodayPlus\Skins).  Edit your config file to display a skin.  I would remark the use of an older skin, and simply add new ones.  You config file should look something like this:
//skin,Skins\slider.txt
skin,Skins\slider-jhollin1138.txt

Thanks.  I look forward to using the new skin.

Thanks for the quick reply.  Somehow, when I edited the config.txt file as you indicated, I now have no today screen, just the background skin.  Any idea what I might have done?

Thanks.

Have you tried reloading TodayPlus?

To do this, go to Start -> Settings -> Today
Tap the Items tab, and then tap "ok".

Or, you could try to a soft reset.

After reloading and a soft reset I still get the blank screen.  Sorry to be a bother.

Have you tried to go back to using the "Slider" skin?

What version of TodayPlus are you running?

Sure, the original slider skin still works, so no problem there.  Just today I downloaded the latest version as loaded in the Changelog forum, v. 0.10.2.

Then it is hard to say what is wrong.  Are you sure the skin "txt" file is in your "Skins" folder under TodayPlus?  Have you been able to use any other skin posted by anybody else?

I did check to make sure it was in the correct directory, and I have tried to install other skins but it seems they are having issues too.  I'll mess with it this weekend and would be grateful if you could help if my messing doesnt solve the problem.

Thanks.

bookie,

No problem, just ask.  Enjoy your weekend.

I haven't forgotten about revising my skin, I have just had no time.  We are currently in the middle of move (moving out of our current house to temporary housing until our new house is finished next month).  Plus, with the Holiday season in full force, I don't have much free time available.  Once things settle down, I hope to get back into tweaking this skin.

jhollin,

If you are still looking for ideas, updating your skin to 0.11.0 would be great.  I am not a fan of the tabbed launcher that comes with the default skin.

Happy Holidays,

JTod

Quote from: JTodIf you are still looking for ideas, updating your skin to 0.11.0 would be great.  I am not a fan of the tabbed launcher that comes with the default skin.

Yep, tabbed launcher will be gone.  I just got the slider skin tweaked for v0.10.2, and was ready to start work on my new region only to have v.0.11.0 released.  :)

Now that I have moved out of my old house and back to my Mom's while waiting for our new house to be finished next month I should have some free time available.  I hope to get my skin finished before we move again; I have 20 days, 4 Hours, and 23 Minutes to get it done; that I am counting or anything.

I am not 100% finished tweaking but I did get a few things finished.

- Removed the tabbed section from the Launcher region.  Currently, this skin has support for 4 groups of 11 shortcuts.
- Since the "Brightness" feature doesn't work on my e740, I have removed it from the System region.  I have replaced it with my SD and CF card information.  You will need to add my "sd0.png" image to your image folder.  It is modified from the one created by Lightman, I have made it "square."  It is included in the attached zip.
- I am currently still using the "Washington Post" icons; they show up better on against my current background.  I also switched the skin back to the "Tahoma" font; my getting older everyday eyes couldn't read that "Frutiger Linotype" font.

In the works:

- The Launcher region will support more or less groups similar to the RSS and Weather Regions.
- Removing the pop-up icon menu and tweaking the date to look similar to original skin.
- Tweaking the Weather region
- Adding my Calendar, current time & weather region.

Edit:  Removed attachments for my latest update.  See my post below!

I hate to quote myself :D

Quote from: jhollin1138- The Launcher region will support more or less groups similar to the RSS and Weather Regions.
- Tweaking the Weather region

These are done!

Quote from: jhollin1138- Removing the pop-up icon menu and tweaking the date to look similar to original skin.
- Adding my Calendar, current time & weather region.

I am still working on these.

Add to the list of stuff I am working on:
- Support for multiple clocks allowing the user to scroll through them.  However, displaying only 5 clocks at a time.

BTW, This skin is for v0.11.0 and the above already attached doesn't include these updates yet!

Since I will be without a decent Internet connection until Monday, I figured I should post what I have working so far.  In addition to the updates I mentioned earlier, this update includes the following:

- The Launcher region will support more or less groups similar to the RSS and Weather Regions.
- Tweaking the Weather region
- Support for multiple clocks allowing the user to scroll through them, still displaying only 5 clocks at any one time.

Still in the works, I hope to have it updated over the Holiday brake.

- Removing the pop-up icon menu and tweaking the date to look similar to my original skin.
- Adding my Calendar, current time & weather region.

In order to use this update, you will need to add a few things to your PPC's registry.  That is until srs adds support for these variables in a future version of the config app (see this post (http://forums.jhollin1138.com/viewtopic.php?t=1059)).   I recommend PHM Registry Editor (http://www.phm.lu/Products/PocketPC/RegEdit/) to make these changes.

1) Start you regedit application and go to the following key:
\HKCU\Software\SRSSoft\TodayPlus\var
2) Under the "var" key, add two new string values.
3) Give the new string values the name of "numlauncher" and "numclocks".
4) Set the values to the number of groups you have for the launcher region and the number of time zones you have entered  (I recommend at least 6 time zones).  See the below screen capture for a basic idea what the settings should look like.

BTW, with all registry changes be careful when making changes.  I will not be responsible if you toast your registry and hard reset your PPC.

Edit: Reattached the missing attachments

HI ----

I just download your skin and have noticed several issues on my PDA (Dell Axim). I am sure that it is probably something that I am doing so if you don't mind providing some insight/assistance, that would be great. Here are the issues that I am encountering:

1) When I sync using ActiveSync, the weather icons as well as the RSS Feeds disappear. I have to refresh using my wireless connection to get them back

2) The Agenda/Task/General information takes an awful long time to refresh. Some times I will have to actually switch to the calendar and then back and it seems to finally display the data.

3) For some reason, a main scroll bar just started to show up hiding the navigation icons for most of the items (when all items are displayed).

The skin I am using is from Nov 27. I tried to use your most recent update, however, many of the items did not appear to be working as well as the 11/27 skin.

Any insight/suggestions are greatly appreciated and THANKS for taking the time to create the skin.

Cheers.

BD

Quote from: bubba1) When I sync using ActiveSync, the weather icons as well as the RSS Feeds disappear. I have to refresh using my wireless connection to get them back

Not sure what is happening here.  It is probably some type of bug with TodayPlus and not with the skin.  You might want to post this one in the bug report forum.

Quote from: bubba2) The Agenda/Task/General information takes an awful long time to refresh. Some times I will have to actually switch to the calendar and then back and it seems to finally display the data.

This is an already posted problem with TodayPlus.

Quote from: bubba3) For some reason, a main scroll bar just started to show up hiding the navigation icons for most of the items (when all items are displayed).

What regions are you displaying when the scroll bar appears (weather, launcher, system, etc.)?  What other Today screen plug-in are you running?

Quote from: bubbaThe skin I am using is from Nov 27. I tried to use your most recent update, however, many of the items did not appear to be working as well as the 11/27 skin.

What were the problems you were having?  Did you make the changes required to your registry?

jhollin,

Can you please post your current skin to be used with version .11?  With all of this hacking and cracking of the ice stuff, I've lost track of your latest skin.  Thanks - JTod

Quote from: JTodjhollin,

Can you please post your current skin to be used with version .11?  With all of this hacking and cracking of the ice stuff, I've lost track of your latest skin.  Thanks - JTod

If you are looking for my last version of my skin, for v0.11.0, that I released, see my post a few posts up.

To be honest, with all the talk expiration dates and srs missing, I had stopped tweaking my skin.  Recently, with all the cracks, hacks and batches that are available to keep TodayPlus running, I have started tweaking again.

I am currently running v0.12.0, but I might switch back to v0.11.0.  There isn't allot of difference between the two versions.  The biggest difference might be how the two versions handle Latitude and Longitude.  My latest skin might need to be tweaked to work properly with v0.11.0, but I am not sure.

If anyone is interested in my latest tweaked skin for v0.12.0, I have attached it below.

Here is a list of tweaks:
- Removed "Uptime", "Est" and "Reset" from the System Region.  (I wanted a little space for the Poom region.)
- The Memory card section of the System region will alternate in displaying SD card (Storagecard 1) and CF card (Storagecard 2) information.  I have included a "filter" that will only display a card if it is installed in your PPC.  It will also display "None" if neither of your storage cards is installed (BTW, you need to put my "No Storage" image I included with the skin into your Image/Color-3D folder.)
- Continued Weather region tweaks.

Edit:  BTW, if you haven't done so already you still need to make the changes to your Registry that I have descibed in this post (http://forums.jhollin1138.com/viewtopic.php?p=5501#5501).

Edit: Reattached the missing attachments

Thanks jhollin,

Your v .12 skin does work with v .11.  My device only uses an SD Card.  What is the filter for preventing the storage area from cycling through SD -> CF?

Thanks again - JTod

Quote from: JTodThanks jhollin,

Your v .12 skin does work with v .11.  My device only uses an SD Card.  What is the filter for preventing the storage area from cycling through SD -> CF?

Thanks again - JTod

Do you mean to say that the CF icon is displaying for you in addition to the SD icon?

It really isn't a filter, it is a series of "If, Then, Else" statements.  It looks like this:if,var,var17,,=,0
if,storage,1
jumpregion,2,0
else
if,storage,2
jumpregion,2,100
else
jumpregion,2,10
endif
endif
storevar,var17=1
else
if,storage,2
jumpregion,2,100
else
if,storage,1
jumpregion,2,0
else
jumpregion,2,10
endif
endif
storevar,var17=0
endif

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