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Title: Skin not working...
Post by: Neo_Reloaded on December 03, 2004, 08:06:01 PM
Hi.

I've downloaded the latest Hammerskin 1.05.2 QVGA, but when I select and reloade the new skin nothing appears in the Today Screen. If I use the 1.04 it displays perfect, the slider.txt skin works ok too.

I've checked all the settings, but I can't find why it doesn't work, it's configured in a Axim X30 (wifi+BT).

Anybody can tell me a solution?

Thanks in advance.
Title: Skin not working...
Post by: jhollin1138 on December 03, 2004, 09:13:13 PM
Have you tried the old Today setting fix?  Just go to:

1) "Settings" -> "Today"
2) Goto "Items" tab
3) Change nothing
4) Close "Today"

That should force a true "Reload" and might clear up your problem.
Title: Skin not working...
Post by: Neo_Reloaded on December 04, 2004, 07:52:27 AM
Yes, I've tried but nothing appears. I'm so confused.

Thanks.
Title: Skin not working...
Post by: Wichtel on December 04, 2004, 08:17:57 AM
Have you tried an Softreset ? :think: Have you installed the New images ?
Title: Skin not working...
Post by: Neo_Reloaded on December 04, 2004, 10:13:59 AM
Yes,  I've installed all the new images and tried several softresets with no luck.
Title: Skin not working...
Post by: Wichtel on December 04, 2004, 10:25:09 AM
Which OS you have installed ppc2002 or Wm2003?
Title: Skin not working...
Post by: uk_skinner on December 04, 2004, 10:38:56 AM
Quote from: Neo_ReloadedYes,  I've installed all the new images and tried several softresets with no luck.

Can you post a screenshot after you select 1.05.02?  Did you see a complete empty page or only image did not show up?
Title: Skin not working...
Post by: Neo_Reloaded on December 08, 2004, 07:56:42 AM
I have WM2003SE (Spanish), and after reloading the new skin nothing appears in the today screen, only the background image.
Title: Skin not working...
Post by: uk_skinner on December 08, 2004, 08:07:01 AM
Quote from: Neo_ReloadedI have WM2003SE (Spanish), and after reloading the new skin nothing appears in the today screen, only the background image.

That is strange.
The Hammerskin 1.04a worked, right?  There is no reason why 1.05 can be loaded.   :think:

Usually, you only need to get out TP when you load a new skin. (like the ones posted by jhollin1138).

The only thing I can suggest you right now (perhpas you done it already) is to deselect TP from the Today Plug-ing menu, do a softreset, then go to configure file, make sure the new skin 1.05.04 is selected, reselect TP from Today Plug-in menu.
Title: Skin not working...
Post by: Neo_Reloaded on December 08, 2004, 01:22:30 PM
I know it's so strange. I tried to change the skin without reloading the plugin and I can see some of the new features but with time it disappears, that's because it starts to refresh the zones.

I'm thinking it's something related to the language, the skin is in english and my Axim X30 with WM2003SE in spanish.

I tested it with two XDAII(WM2003 Spanish) and it doesn't work too.
Title: Skin not working...
Post by: uk_skinner on December 08, 2004, 01:25:47 PM
Quote from: Neo_ReloadedI know it's so strange. I tried to change the skin without reloading the plugin and I can see some of the new features but with time it disappears, that's because it starts to refresh the zones.

I'm thinking it's something related to the language, the skin is in english and my Axim X30 with WM2003SE in spanish.

I tested it with two XDAII(WM2003 Spanish) and it doesn't work too.

But, didn't you say 1.04 worked?  Can 1.04 work again?
Title: Skin not working...
Post by: Wichtel on December 08, 2004, 04:27:02 PM
neo_Reloaded

Do you have some other TodayPlugins installed? If yes, deinstall the other Plugins and try it again
Title: Skin not working...
Post by: Neo_Reloaded on December 08, 2004, 06:05:03 PM
Sorry, I forget to say that the 1.04a it's working perfect, and I have no other Todayplugins installed/running.
Title: Skin not working...
Post by: uk_skinner on December 08, 2004, 08:44:23 PM
Quote from: Neo_ReloadedSorry, I forget to say that the 1.04a it's working perfect, and I have no other Todayplugins installed/running.

That is even strange since 1.04a worked just fine and I really don't think it is the problem of Spainish OS.  Did you change anything in the skin?  If you did, please download the original one then try it or uploaded the one you changed, we can take a look.

If not, this is a "hard way" I would suggest.


1) Make a copy of 1.04a in case something goes wrong, you still have original one.

2) Let's call this 1.04.5, start to compare the two versions and copy/paste the code from 1.05.04 to 1.04.5.  I would suggest to do the the section before the region,2,0 first, becuase there are some initial setting for the skin.  Load 1.04.5 to see it works or not.

3) Next should be region,1,0  then region,2,0.

Step by step, you probably will find where the problem might be.
Title: Skin not working...
Post by: Wichtel on December 09, 2004, 01:05:29 AM
UK_Skinner

have you tried out Version 1.05.X with TD+ V0.12. Perhaps one of the variables higher var 29 doesn´t work with TD+ V0.12.

Neo_Reloaded

Make sure you have installed the latest Version of Hammerskin
which TD+ Version you´r using V0.11 or V0.12?
Title: Skin not working...
Post by: uk_skinner on December 09, 2004, 07:09:36 AM
Quote from: WichtelUK_Skinner

have you tried out Version 1.05.X with TD+ V0.12. Perhaps one of the variables higher var 29 doesn´t work with TD+ V0.12.

Neo_Reloaded

Make sure you have installed the latest Version of Hammerskin
which TD+ Version you´r using V0.11 or V0.12?


I am running 0.11 and never tested the variable on 0.12.   :think:

That is a good point.  I really don't know how the variables will impact v.12
Title: Skin not working...
Post by: Timmy on December 09, 2004, 07:54:18 AM
Snifff...   sniffff...   sniffffffffff...

Do I smell the delicious fragrance of version 0.12 here???? Is this our next christmass present?!?


(http://www.cheesebuerger.net/images/midi/xmas/f040.gif)


Timmy
Title: Skin not working...
Post by: Wichtel on December 09, 2004, 11:21:29 AM
Timmy
don´t worry i´m also using TD+ V 0.11
Title: Skin not working...
Post by: uk_skinner on December 09, 2004, 12:29:44 PM
Quote from: WichtelTimmy
don´t worry i´m also using TD+ V 0.11

Me too.. :D  :)
Title: Skin not working...
Post by: grayme on December 09, 2004, 02:22:20 PM
Quote from: uk_skinner
Quote from: WichtelTimmy
don´t worry i´m also using TD+ V 0.11

Me too.. :D  :)

So only John has had V0.12 on here (that will admit it!  :) )

I'll have to scower google a bit more!
Title: Skin not working...
Post by: uk_skinner on December 09, 2004, 02:32:40 PM
Quote from: grayme

So only John has had V0.12 on here (that will admit it!  :) )

I'll have to scower google a bit more!

Been there, done that, and no luck.  Maybe I put the wrong key word...
Title: Skin not working...
Post by: grayme on December 09, 2004, 02:36:12 PM
Quote from: uk_skinner
Quote from: grayme

So only John has had V0.12 on here (that will admit it!  :) )

I'll have to scower google a bit more!

Been there, done that, and no luck.  Maybe I put the wrong key word...

Same here  :roll:  :roll:
Title: Skin not working...
Post by: uk_skinner on December 09, 2004, 02:38:40 PM
Ok, I found this but don't count on it.  I am not sure this statement is true or not.  Even it is, you have to "pay the price".  jhollin1138, if you think this is not proper, please delete it.  I just quote from a site.

"XXXXXX requires Todayplus, A free program. If you don't already have Todayplus ver 12 then email us.  We can also help you install it."
Title: Skin not working...
Post by: Timmy on December 09, 2004, 03:32:17 PM
Quote from: uk_skinnerOk, I found this but don't count on it.  I am not sure this statement is true or not.  Even it is, you have to "pay the price".  jhollin1138, if you think this is not proper, please delete it.  I just quote from a site.

"XXXXXX requires Todayplus, A free program. If you don't already have Todayplus ver 12 then email us.  We can also help you install it."
Uk_skinner,

I've found the url, too. It has to do with Corbut (EDIT: Corbcut), a well known name in the skinners world. (.....)

But I'm so very sorry for us all: it's totally forbidden to use 0.12. Sorry, sorry, sorry, what a pity..... The great, but mysterious mr. SRS gave that version only to a specific little group of beta testers, and they aren't allowed to give it to the public. Isn't it jhollin1138?!? But I seriously hope I'm wrong...

Timmy
Title: Skin not working...
Post by: uk_skinner on December 09, 2004, 03:36:29 PM
Quote from: TimmyUk_skinner,

I've found the url, too. It has to do with Corbut, a well known name in the skinners world. (.......)

But I'm so very sorry for us all: it's totally forbidden to use 0.12. Sorry, sorry, sorry, what a pity..... The great, but mysterious mr. SRS gave that version only to a specific little group of beta testers, and they aren't allowed to give it to the public. Isn't it jhollin1138?!? But I seriously hope I'm wrong...

Timmy[/color]

Are you sure you get the name right?????
Title: Skin not working...
Post by: grayme on December 09, 2004, 03:37:29 PM
Can we manage without it?

can we get emails into v0.11?
Title: Skin not working...
Post by: Timmy on December 09, 2004, 03:39:23 PM
Quote from: uk_skinner
Quote from: TimmyUk_skinner,

I've found the url, too. It has to do with Corbut, a well known name in the skinners world. (.....)

But I'm so very sorry for us all: it's totally forbidden to use 0.12. Sorry, sorry, sorry, what a pity..... The great, but mysterious mr. SRS gave that version only to a specific little group of beta testers, and they aren't allowed to give it to the public. Isn't it jhollin1138?!? But I seriously hope I'm wrong...

Timmy[/color]

Are you sure you get the name right?????

Uk_skinner,

Corbut (EDIT: Corbcut): yes, but I'm not sure about the other name. I'll delete it! Thanks for your attention and maybe correction of my mistake!

Timmy
Title: Skin not working...
Post by: uk_skinner on December 09, 2004, 03:41:51 PM
Timmy:

 You forgot to delete the one in the quote..
Title: Skin not working...
Post by: Timmy on December 09, 2004, 03:46:09 PM
Quote from: uk_skinnerTimmy:

 You forgot to delete the one in the quote..

Uk_skinner,

Done now. Can you delete it in yours?!? Thanks again!!!

Timmy
Title: Skin not working...
Post by: uk_skinner on December 09, 2004, 03:47:05 PM
:oops:  :oops:  :oops:  :oops:  :oops:  :oops:  :oops:
Done
Title: Skin not working...
Post by: Timmy on December 09, 2004, 03:51:50 PM
Good team here, isn't it?!?

(http://www.cheesebuerger.net/images/midi/sportlich/d026.gif)

Timmy
Title: Skin not working...
Post by: ZapMe1 on December 09, 2004, 03:54:36 PM
QuoteGood team here, isn't it?!?

If only SRS would come back, the TP team would be more complete !!   :D
Title: Skin not working...
Post by: Timmy on December 09, 2004, 04:05:14 PM
Quote from: ZapMe1
QuoteGood team here, isn't it?!?

If only SRS would come back, the TP team would be more complete !!   :D
ZapMe1,

Yes, that's true. It's still unbeleavable what only ONE MAN fixed in such a short time. When he comes here to play the game again, it would be like this:

(http://www.cheesebuerger.net/images/midi/musik/e022.gif)

Timmy
Title: Skin not working...
Post by: ZapMe1 on December 09, 2004, 04:06:35 PM
:approve:  :dance:
Title: Skin not working...
Post by: Neo_Reloaded on December 09, 2004, 05:20:44 PM
I followed the instructions of uk_skinner and now the skin works, I don't know if it works 100% but now appears.

I attach the skin I'm currently using that works, if someone whants to see the changes... I added a // to the changed lines and copied from 1.04a skin those lines.

I'm still looking for bugs to my skin "conversion".

Thanks for your help.
Title: Skin not working...
Post by: uk_skinner on December 09, 2004, 05:25:43 PM
Quote from: Neo_ReloadedI followed the instructions of uk_skinner and now the skin works, I don't know if it works 100% but now appears.

I attach the skin I'm currently using that works, if someone whants to see the changes... I added a // to the changed lines and copied from 1.04a skin those lines.

I'm still looking for bugs to my skin "conversion".

Thanks for your help.

Good to hear..  I will download it and take a look.  Enjoy.. :wink:
Title: Skin not working...
Post by: uk_skinner on December 09, 2004, 05:33:03 PM
Neo_reloaded:

 Did you command out the "if,var,var25,,=,1" right under the region,1,0?

  That is the code from 1.05.04.  I think you better remove "//" becuase you need that code to make all "buttons" disappeared when you jump to radar page.
Title: Skin not working...
Post by: Neo_Reloaded on December 09, 2004, 06:26:58 PM
If I don't command out that line "if,var,var25,,=,1" all buttons disappear. It's something strange.

I'm still investigating, but I don't know so much about "skinning" in TodayPlus, I'm merging code between 1.04a and 1.05.4.

Thanks a lot.
Title: Skin not working...
Post by: uk_skinner on December 09, 2004, 08:30:01 PM
Quote from: Neo_ReloadedIf I don't command out that line "if,var,var25,,=,1" all buttons disappear. It's something strange.

I'm still investigating, but I don't know so much about "skinning" in TodayPlus, I'm merging code between 1.04a and 1.05.4.

Thanks a lot.

Neo_Reloaded:

     Go to the almost top of the skin, you have this:

// initvar,var25,1    //Sat & Radar

    You need to remove the first "//", like this

initvar,var25,1    //Sat & Radar


   Then remove the command "//" out from "//if,var,var25,,=,1"

Since you did not "initvar" var25=1, so you don't see the buttons.  I hope this is clear.  


I saw you commentted a lot of codes out, your skin will not work properly.  Especially the codes above region,2,o are very important since TP will set up the parameters when the skin is loaded.  

If you want to find the bug, I would suggest you this way:

1)  Try to load hammerskin 1.05.04 again, to see it will work.

2) If not, then let's comment out the "initvar" one-by-one.  

3) Comment out the var that you did not see in 1.04 first.  

4) Load the skin to see where the problems might be.

5) As Witchtel indicated that the new var might be the issue.

Since you did not see the skin loaded at all, I would suspect something happened when TP tried to set these var.
Title: Skin not working...
Post by: Neo_Reloaded on December 10, 2004, 04:03:38 AM
I'll try it later, because now I can't.

I'll follow all the instructions to try to find the bug.

Thanks.
Title: Skin not working...
Post by: Neo_Reloaded on December 10, 2004, 05:29:43 PM
I think I have found the problem. If I comment out the line "initvar,var51,1   //Sat & Radar Albumansicht" the skin loads perfect, but I cannot use the option "Satellite & Radar" on the Weather page because the screen stays without nothing and I have to reload the plugin, if I use the radar icon it works ok.

One more thing, how can I make by default which weather Icons appears, because the plugin changes it whenever it wants, but this is the less important thing now.


Thanks to everybody.
Title: Skin not working...
Post by: uk_skinner on December 10, 2004, 05:36:09 PM
Quote from: Neo_ReloadedI think I have found the problem. If I comment out the line "initvar,var51,1   //Sat & Radar Albumansicht" the skin loads perfect, but I cannot use the option "Satellite & Radar" on the Weather page because the screen stays without nothing and I have to reload the plugin, if I use the radar icon it works ok.

One more thing, how can I make by default which weather Icons appears, because the plugin changes it whenever it wants, but this is the less important thing now.


Thanks to everybody.

Good, so var51 is a bad var for you.  I can try to find a var for you.  Could you upload the skin here, the one you comment out "initvar,var51,1   //Sat & Radar Albumansicht" and I will try to find a var for you.

The weather icon should only change when you tap "Change Icons" uner the "Menu" in weather page.  I can take a look when you upload your skin here.
Title: Default weather set
Post by: rbishop on December 10, 2004, 06:01:22 PM
I can answer this one. Look for the following line

"initvar,var10,2   //Wetter Icon Change"

The number 2 above corresponds with the icons set below that is a set of  "if,else,endif".  Just change the "2" above to match the icons you like.
For example: I like the weather.com icons. So I found the following

"if,var,var10,,=,2
   options,weathericondir,Weather Icons\weather.com,png
else
endif
"
Hope this helps.
Title: Skin not working...
Post by: uk_skinner on December 10, 2004, 06:13:13 PM
rbishop:

:approve:  :approve:  :approve:  :approve:
Title: Skin not working...
Post by: Neo_Reloaded on December 10, 2004, 06:17:20 PM
OK, here is the skin that I'm using right now, the line is commented out.

What is so strange is that I'm the only affected with that problem until now... strange...

About the weather icons, don't worry so much, I'll do what rbishop says.

Thanks.
Title: Skin not working...
Post by: uk_skinner on December 10, 2004, 06:27:05 PM
Quote from: Neo_ReloadedOK, here is the skin that I'm using right now, the line is commented out.

What is so strange is that I'm the only affected with that problem until now... strange...

About the weather icons, don't worry so much, I'll do what rbishop says.

Thanks.

Neo:

 Try this.

  I changed all var51 to var2.  var 2 used in RSS section.  Since the RSS section is not activated when you are at radar section, so it is ok to use it. Whenever you jump out from radar section, the var2 will be resetted to 1.   I tried this "trick" before.

 For your information, I added comement "var51-->var2" to where I did the change.

 Let me know if you encounter any problem.
Title: Skin not working...
Post by: Neo_Reloaded on December 10, 2004, 06:39:21 PM
Thanks so much uk_skinner, by now it works perfect, the link to the radar  from the weather section works OK.

I'll give a better try and I tell if I find any bug.

Now I'll beat with the radar images.

rbishop, your instructions worked perfect, thank you.

Thanks so much.
Title: Skin not working...
Post by: uk_skinner on December 10, 2004, 08:56:39 PM
Quote from: Neo_ReloadedThanks so much uk_skinner, by now it works perfect, the link to the radar  from the weather section works OK.

I'll give a better try and I tell if I find any bug.

Now I'll beat with the radar images.

rbishop, your instructions worked perfect, thank you.

Thanks so much.

Great!!!  If you need help with radar image, such as how to set up url for downloading, just post here.  You are in Spain, right?
Title: Skin not working...
Post by: Neo_Reloaded on December 11, 2004, 07:33:41 AM
You're right, I'm in Spain. By now I tried to use the USA url supplied with the original radar.txt and works, but if you know any url for spain it will be great, because I don't know which use.
Title: Skin not working...
Post by: uk_skinner on December 11, 2004, 11:18:57 AM
Quote from: Neo_ReloadedYou're right, I'm in Spain. By now I tried to use the USA url supplied with the original radar.txt and works, but if you know any url for spain it will be great, because I don't know which use.

Neo_Reloaded:

  Again, I would suggest to look your local TV or newspaper website and post link here.  A lot of users here can figure out what the url for you, especially when it is dynamic ones.