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Title: Weather not updating / or update slowly
Post by: dmk on February 08, 2005, 08:45:19 AM
Anyone else having this problem? I have cleared buffer since weather hadn't updated in several hours 18hrs to be exact.  Now updating very slow and it has downloaded forcast assuming that today is Sunday 2/6/05.  Were does TP get the weather forecast? and does anyone know if that sight is down?
Thanks
Title: Re: Weather not updating / or update slowly
Post by: Broesel on February 08, 2005, 09:01:23 AM
Quote from: dmkAnyone else having this problem? I have cleared buffer since weather hadn't updated in several hours 18hrs to be exact.  Now updating very slow and it has downloaded forcast assuming that today is Sunday 2/6/05.  Were does TP get the weather forecast? and does anyone know if that sight is down?
Thanks

Well, that's a known problem with msnbc.com, where TodayPlus gets
the weatherinformation from. That's one of the reasons, why we are
trying to get the weatherinformation from another server.
Take a look at that thread:
http://www.jhollin1138.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=1763

Regards Broesel
Title: Re: Weather not updating / or update slowly
Post by: uk_skinner on February 08, 2005, 09:07:34 AM
Quote from: dmkAnyone else having this problem? I have cleared buffer since weather hadn't updated in several hours 18hrs to be exact.  Now updating very slow and it has downloaded forcast assuming that today is Sunday 2/6/05.  Were does TP get the weather forecast? and does anyone know if that sight is down?
Thanks

dmk:

 You might want to check this thread.  Sounds you have similiar problem like ZapMe1.  Maybe not, just at safe side.

http://www.jhollin1138.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=1735
Title: Weather not updating / or update slowly
Post by: angcheek on February 08, 2005, 10:14:56 AM
Hi there,

I agreed. I also have problem doing updating.  Since the default site is too slow, is there another site we can use?

THank you  8)
Title: Weather not updating / or update slowly
Post by: Broesel on February 08, 2005, 10:30:29 AM
Quote from: angcheekHi there,

I agreed. I also have problem doing updating.  Since the default site is too slow, is there another site we can use?

THank you  8)

And again, see the thread: http://www.jhollin1138.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=1763

Regards Broesel
Title: Weather not updating / or update slowly
Post by: uk_skinner on February 08, 2005, 10:46:04 AM
Just a side note.

I have trying to get weather information from weather.com too.  Yahoo's ones are also from weather.com.  I have sent the modified PHP script to eemond (aka the PHP master).   If it is fine, then for USA users, the weather information can be directly from weather.com.  

For compaison, you can go to MSNBC, Yahoo and weather.com to check the update time of the weather for your home city.  Most of time, weather.com has the most updated weather information.

For European users, I am still struggle with the text format for both German and French site.  It seemed they are different from USA site... :wall:  :wall:
Title: Weather not updating / or update slowly
Post by: angcheek on February 08, 2005, 10:59:55 AM
Hi everyone,

Ok I realised its not that the weather site is slow. I have been trying to do an update but failed. I tried for 2 hrs. still canoot update.

So i tried these
1) go to TP config,
2) clear buffer,
3) reload plug-in
4) Update weather again.

Now I can get new update. This is no good. Anyone got any fix for this? I think the sync functions for the weather is not correct.  :(  :(  :(
Title: Weather not updating / or update slowly
Post by: angcheek on February 09, 2005, 10:32:48 PM
I found out something interesting. I set my weather to update 1440 (24hr). But somehow in the middle of the nite, my weather for current disappear again. the forecast iicons are still there. only current is gone.

This normall happen if I try to do a update without clearing the buffer manually. Does TP try to update or refresh it self ???
:roll:

Thanks
Title: Weather not updating / or update slowly
Post by: Wichtel on February 10, 2005, 01:17:18 AM
Quote from: angcheekI found out something interesting. I set my weather to update 1440 (24hr). But somehow in the middle of the nite, my weather for current disappear again. the forecast iicons are still there. only current is gone.

This normall happen if I try to do a update without clearing the buffer manually. Does TP try to update or refresh it self ???
:roll:

Thanks

You must search for this entrys in the Skin:

   calcvar,var20,weatherupdatetimediff

   if,var,var20,,<,240
      changefont,Tahoma,12,b

There are more than one in the Skin, but you must´nt change all. Search for the Red one
Title: Weather not updating / or update slowly
Post by: angcheek on February 10, 2005, 01:35:20 AM
Thanks Wichtel,

Seems like the skin somehow still do an update by itself every 240min.  :roll:  :roll:  :roll:
Title: Weather not updating / or update slowly
Post by: Wichtel on February 10, 2005, 07:26:36 AM
That´s not right. TP synchs never by himself. TP Synchs only wenn you Tab the Synchbutton or after an synch from Aktivsynch, but never by himself
Title: Weather not updating / or update slowly
Post by: Broesel on February 10, 2005, 07:40:28 AM
Quote from: angcheekThanks Wichtel,

Seems like the skin somehow still do an update by itself every 240min.  :roll:  :roll:  :roll:

No, it does not do any update, only the representation of the data from
the cityx.txt is changing in the skin by the updatetime (taken from cityx.txt.time
in the buffer-folder), so when you don't synch, the
weatherupdatetimediff (shown in minutes) is growing and the skin will
representate the data in another way.

Regards Broesel
Title: Weather not updating / or update slowly
Post by: uk_skinner on February 10, 2005, 07:54:08 AM
angcheek:

  There two things need to be happened in order to view the weather information in TP:

1)  Get city.txt into the Buffer folder from internet.
2)  Skin code to get the data from city.txt and isplay the information.

In Hammerskin, Wichtel set 240 minutes (4 hours) as an "alarm".  If your data was more than 4 hours old, the current data will disappear.  But the city.txt data is still there.  It was the skin code made the information disappear.  If you wish to extand that to 24 hours (1440 minutes), you just need to adjust in the skin file.  Then you will see them.

The 24 hours time you set in configure is somehow tricky for me.  My understanding is if you have a sync and your last weather update time is more than your setting (24 hours) then TP will download the new one if you have internet connection.  If it is less than your setting, then it will not do anything.  However, you can trigger the updating manually.   If this is not right, please correct me, thanks.
Title: Weather not updating / or update slowly
Post by: Broesel on February 10, 2005, 09:13:35 AM
Quote from: uk_skinner
The 24 hours time you set in configure is somehow tricky for me.  My understanding is if you have a sync and your last weather update time is more than your setting (24 hours) then TP will download the new one if you have internet connection.  If it is less than your setting, then it will not do anything.  However, you can trigger the updating manually.   If this is not right, please correct me, thanks.

Don't know, if it's correct, my time in config.exe is set to 60 and if I try
to manually synch before that time is gone, it won't update and sometimes
it synchs automatically (if synching after activesync is chosen in config.exe)
and sometimes it doesn't synch automatically, even if the time has run off ???

Regards Broesel
Title: Weather not updating / or update slowly
Post by: uk_skinner on February 10, 2005, 09:31:34 AM
In fact, I was not sure either.

What I did observe was that you need have a "sync",  for example, if you add a new appointment in outlook, then AS will try to add it to your device.   That will trigger TP to do refresh if you have "Refresh on Sync" checked.  If your last update time is less than your setting, TP will not do updating.  If it is over, then TP will do it.

However, if I put my device in the cradle in the morning the only time TP will do the updating was I have made change in my POOM (or some other actions, such as sync mobile favor) or I click Sync at PC side.  So my impression was that you need have information exchange between PC and device then TP will check your last update time to determine whether refreshing is necessary.

:knownot:
Title: Weather not updating / or update slowly
Post by: Broesel on February 10, 2005, 09:40:25 AM
Quote from: uk_skinner
What I did observe was that you need have a "sync",  for example, if you add a new appointment in outlook, then AS will try to add it to your device.   That will trigger TP to do refresh if you have "Refresh on Sync" checked.

Yes, that would explain, why it sometimes does and somtimes does no
automatic update :)

Regards Broesel
Title: Weather not updating / or update slowly
Post by: angcheek on February 11, 2005, 09:59:56 AM
Sorry I reply soo late. I was out of town and Thanks guys.  :D

Its enlightening to know so much.   :shock: