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TodayPlus for the Pocket PC Forums => General => Topic started by: Scotty on November 27, 2003, 02:58:17 PM

Title: Inaccurate weather forecasts
Post by: Scotty on November 27, 2003, 02:58:17 PM
This is not a TP+ bug, it's an issue with the MSNBC site, from which TP+ appears to get its weather information. I've noticed many times that the forecasts are wrong. For example, since 6 AM this morning, it's been showing my ZIP as "Windy" - but there hasn't been a breath of air all day (it's now noon). A few hours ago, I went to the MSNBC site, looked at my ZIP code, and the forecasts (including the 4-day) were exactly as shown on my TP+ screen. So, TP+ is faithfully showing what MSNBC provides. Furthermore, the MSNBC page said that it was last updated an hour previously. HOWEVER, when I clicked on the MSNBC link to "extended forecast at weather.com", the forecasts at weather.com (for the same ZIP code) were different (today's; and also the highs/lows for the next few days'). And today's was accurate (no claims of windiness......). I've been checking, on & off, for the last few hours, and the MSNBC site SAYS it's updating regularly (hourly), but the forecast stays wrong ("Windy"). Looks to me as though the MSNBC forecasts do not correctly pull the information from weather.com, at least not every hour, as claimed..........
Title: Inaccurate weather forecasts
Post by: 7erl on November 27, 2003, 03:29:27 PM
I totally agree with Scotty, the data delivered by MSNBC is almost useless.
I live in Munich, Germany, and have three cities in my weather display region. The distance between each of the cities is around 20 km and the weather at these location is so different as it couldn't be!

The best source for German weather ist www.wetter.com. Any chance to get diffent wetter sources?

Cheers
7erl
Title: Inaccurate weather forecasts
Post by: arbitrajeu on November 27, 2003, 07:04:46 PM
Quote from: 7erlThe best source for German weather ist www.wetter.com. Any chance to get diffent wetter sources?
Strange... been looking for UK weather sources... tried www.even-wetter.com and www.wetter_still.co.uk to no avail ;)

I do sort of agree that it might be nice to implement other feeds - I can't believe weather.com don't offer one themselves... surely MSNBC.com must be using something?
Title: Inaccurate weather forecasts
Post by: LightMan on November 28, 2003, 05:44:15 AM
Just for the record (to account for a good experience), I have to say that the weather forecasts that MSNBC provides for my country (Portugal) have been VERY accurate...
Title: Inaccurate weather forecasts
Post by: Scotty on November 29, 2003, 12:51:05 PM
Hi Lightman

I'm glad that MSNBC is accurate for you, but my main concern is that - at least, for the area in which I live - the MSNBC feed (which is used by TP+) does not accurately reflect the data in the source that it supposedly uses. To clarify my meaning, I attach 2 files. The first shows the MSNBC forecast; these numbers are exactly equivalent to what's on my TP+ screen (which I haven't shown). At the top left, you'll see that MSNBC says that it gets its information from the weather channel (weather.com). BUT if you click on the weather channel link at the bottom right, you're taken to the extended forecast at weather.com -- and, as the 2nd jpg shows, the forecasts for today, Sun, Mon & Tuesday, are different from those shown on the MSNBC forecast (and, in my experience, the weather.com predictions are the more accurate).

This is an ongoing problem, and I've now contacted MSNBC about it. Somewhat to my surprise, I got a response from a real live person, not just a canned "thanks for your interest" email. So, let's see if they fix it.

All the best,   Scotty
Title: Inaccurate weather forecasts
Post by: srs on December 01, 2003, 10:04:02 AM
also keep in mind that the MSNBC forecast is one hour behind the main weather.com forecasts, although I don't imagine the forecasts would change that much in a period of one hour.
Title: Inaccurate weather forecasts
Post by: sop on December 01, 2003, 10:57:11 AM
i have to agree with 7erl
the german forecast from msnbc is not very reliable
Title: Inaccurate weather forecasts
Post by: Nielsracing on December 01, 2003, 12:07:58 PM
The weather in my country, The Netherlands Amsterdam seems very reliable to me :?  :D
Title: Inaccurate weather forecasts
Post by: Scotty on December 01, 2003, 05:21:28 PM
Hi srs

First, great plug-in, congratulations & thanks  :D

With regard to the 1-hour difference - as you surmised, that's not the problem. As I noted in my first post on this subject, on that occasion I followed the 4-day MSNBC forecast for several hours, and it SAID it updated regularly (every hour or so), but it didn't change to reflect the "underlying" weather.com forecast.....

And to Nielsracing....remember, don't just go by whether the forecast seems to correctly predict the weather outside your window (probably easy for anyone to predict the weather in December in the Netherlands, if it's anything like the weather in Scotland, where I grew up  :wink: ) - the question is this: for Amsterdam, is the 4-day MSNBC forecast the same as the "extended" forecast at weather.com (if that's available on your web page...)?

Thanks for the feedback.....Scotty.
Title: Inaccurate weather forecasts
Post by: Kaibosh on December 02, 2003, 03:25:47 AM
Same here Scotty..  (Melbourne, Aust..)

Except that mine is also a couple of days behind..  (As it is on MSNBC site..)

ie.. I'm writing this at 7:24pm Tuesday 2nd December..  The weather "forecast" on msnbc shows Current Conditions, and forecast is for Mon, Tues, Wed, Thurs..  (This normally works fine despite the whole time difference thing...)