Maybe already reported, maybe not, but I had a MAJOR problem yesterday. Downloaded 10.2 and installed it. Everything looks fine. Weather wasn't correct (Amsterdam was 18 degrees C yesterday...) but I got that fixed by, as said the readme, clearing the Buffer directory.
After the sync that followed, my Buffer dir. kept getting bigger and bigger (rss1.txt?) until the moment everything stopped. I was too late; had the thing on my desk and wasn't paying attention.
System didn't responded AT ALL. So I did a soft reset. Alas. It kept resetting. And resetting. Over and over. Removing the battery and replacing: still resetting. So a hard reset was all there was left. And I was NOT amused by that.
Ipaq 2210
My IPAQ 2215 appears to have done the same thing when I installed 10.2 today. I can't be certain because it started endlessly rebooting before I got the chance to investigate. I had to perform a hard reset as well.
I noticed the same problem the other day, but managed to catch it when my rss file (think it was one of the .html files) was just 9MB. I noticed my Bluetooth light flashing rather too much, and TodayPlus was very unresponsive.
Not sure what diagnostic information I can provide, really.
I have now seen this problem on multiple occasions using 10.2 with several different skins:
1) default slider skin
2) Lord Twisted 10.2
3) rbg08 10.2
I have not been able to isolate the problem, but it manifests itself as an uncontrollable need to chew up all available memory followed by a self-destruct sequence :(
Once it reaches this state, my H2210 enters an "infinite" soft reboot cycle.
The only way to recover is to restore from backup after a hard reset :shock: .
Bottom Line:
If you play with beta software, you better have a backup :!:
-BL
Quote from: BrightLightI have not been able to isolate the problem, but it manifests itself as an uncontrollable need to chew up all available memory followed by a self-destruct sequence :(
Well, you can control it if you catch it, just by shutting down ActiveSync. Not suggesting that's ideal, but destruction is not totally inevitable.
Quote from: BrightLightBottom Line:
If you play with beta software, you better have a backup :!:
Best advice anyone's given all day.
For the record, it should be a 0.10.2 issue only, I'm still using 0.10.1 and I've never ran into this problem.
I am using 0.10.2 and havent ran into this proplem at all.
Lordtwisted :D
I think it might be a proplem with the rss in the config.txt file. where it caches the number of pages, I cache 0 and have no proplems like so:
rss,1,60,http://rss.news.yahoo.com/rss/tech,Yahoo! Tech,0
just for the record how many do you all that are having trubles have cached at the end of your code?
Lordtwisted :D
Quote from: LordtwistedI think it might be a proplem with the rss in the config.txt file. where it caches the number of pages, I cache 0 and have no proplems like so:
I'm pretty sure you're right. I have 6 cached for each of my 3 feeds, and am almost certain that the file that got bloated in my case was one of the html files. This would explain why you've not seen it.
I'm sure the solution
can't be to avoid caching pages - that's one of the strongest elements of the rss functionality. However, it certainly
is a great way to avoid the problem whilst a long-term fix is found.
Its not always true.
I am using 10.2 for a week now, and a mix number of cached pages for my five feeds (6,0,0,6,8 ) and havn't had any problem whatsoever. 10.2 is rather running more stable for me than 10.1.
Quote from: LordtwistedI think it might be a proplem with the rss in the config.txt file. where it caches the number of pages, I cache 0 and have no proplems like so:
I am set up the same way and I also haven't seen this one.
I am waiting for the version that will allow me to buffer to a storage card before I start caching. I am already walking on the edge running an e740, I don't need to fill-up my system memory to. :D
BTW, I am also running v0.10.2.
I am using 0.10.2 and have 11 rss feeds, three with 6 cached pages, three with 3, and one with 1 (for a total of 28 cached pages). I have so far not experienced any memory problems (knock on wood).
I believe srs put a download limit of 100k for each of the HTML files to prevent this type of problem from occuring, but maybe in this version the code is not working.
I had this same problem. I have an ipaq 2210 (German version, same as 2215) and right after I installed 0.10.2 my Ipaq locked up. So I did a softreset and was caught in that softreset-cycle.
I think this is not related to how many or which news feeds one uses, as I only used the config.txt and slider.txt files that were pre-installed in 0.10.2. I haven't even changed my home cities and weather locations in config.txt and slider.txt.
Would be interesting to hear on which devices this problem occurs. As I read further above, someone else with a 2210 had it. On which devices did you have this prob, guys?
Looks as if I won't install Today+ again before this issue isn't fixed.... :(
I just don't like hardresets..........
Had this problem again today, and the offending file was rss2.txt.1.html, which grew to 9MB before I stopped it. I have attached the contents of my Buffer folder, including the guilty file. As it is just 9MB of spaces, it compresses down to 9k :D
I've also included my config.txt file in the ZIP.
Hope this helps with the diagnostic.
I had the same thing the day after installing 10.2 - my memory suddenly was reported as used up, and the iPaq crashed. Like some other posters, I am running WM2003 on an iPaq 2210/2215. I apologise, I should have reported the problem on the forum last week, as soon as it occurred :oops:
I was fortunate, though, because after 5 or 6 resets, being told that the iPaq couldn't find a file named (I think) conn.exe, suddenly a soft reset worked, allowing me access to file explorer; I found a huge file related to my first TP rss site link, and deleted it. Memory was then reported the same as it had been prior to loading 10.2. Obviously, my first thought was a bug in 10.2, but another possibility was that the problem was related to that particular rss site, which had stopped working just a day or so previously (it's a commercial site, and I think the site's owners had done something to prevent access by non-paying visitors). I hadn't bothered inactivating the rss link in TP, so I suspected that, for some reason, accessing that site had caused an essentially unlimited download of data. However, I really needed my iPaq that evening, and didn't have time to distinguish between the two possibilities (10.2 or the rss site) - so for safety's sake, I uninstalled 10.2, and reinstalled 10.1, and inactivated that rss link. No problem since then.
Scotty.
I changed bits of the code dealing with internet downloading to fix the exe crashing problem and that new code much be causing some problems.
has anyone with ppc2002 experienced this or only wm2003 users ?
also is there a common rss feed that all those who have this problem are using ?
Hi srs
the link I was using was :
rss,1,60,http://p.moreover.com/cgi-local/page?c=Entertainment%3A%20movie%20reviews&o=rss, Movie reviews,15
I know 15 is a big number, but the site had been fine - I could see 15 headlines, and for all 15, I could access the underlying detailed reviews. As I posted above, the site stopped working (I could still see 15 headlines, but when I tried to see the details, I got a page saying that "headine functionality has been disabled from your intranet") so I thought that the owners of this site had changed something (I still think that is the case). When I encountered the memory problem after installing TP 10.2, the huge file was related to this site (rss1) so I couldn't discount the possibility that the fault lay with additional site changes, rather than with 10.2
As I said, I re-installed 10.1, and inactivated (//) the rss link.
To try to help a bit with your diagnosis, I have just re-activated the above rss link, cleared the buffer, and done a refresh (under TP 10.1). It worked fine. The rss link still doesn't work properly - I can see the "headlines" of all 15 movie reviews, but I can no longer see the details. However, I did NOT encounter the memory problem that is the topic of this thread. So, I think it's something to do with 10.2 (but it remains possible that 10.2 is fine for most rss sites, and just causes problems on certain ones; and of course, it may be something weird about 10.2 running under WM2003.
Good luck, & all the best.......Scotty.
I just had the above problem using 0.11.0. the RSS feed I'm using is
rss,3,60,http://www.lockergnome.com/lockergnome.xml,Lockergnome,10
And the first HTML file got to an unholy 100MB before I caught it. The files contains
iTunes software.]]></description>
<pubDate>Sat, 20 Dec 2003 11:\iTunes software.]]></description>
<pubDate>Sat, 20 Dec 2003 11:\iTunes software.]]></description>
<pubDate>Sat, 20 Dec 2003 11:\iTunes software.]]></description>
<pubDate>Sat, 20 Dec 2003 11:\iTunes software.]]></description>
...
I have an iPAQ 5555 running WM2003, with nothing running but ActiveSync over an 802.11b/Bluetooth (switching back and forth) connection. Let me know if you need more info.[/code]
ok,
I've been taking a close look at this, but unfortunately so far I haven't been able to reproduce this. :(
Here's a wild stab in the dark... what happens when TP is trying to download, and the ACK gets lost? Will the server it's trying to download from resend the packet? If so, this could be causing the big files.
Or I could be smoking ham again...
Quote from: srsok,
I've been taking a close look at this, but unfortunately so far I haven't been able to reproduce this. :(
This just happened to me today with the latest beta (0.12) as well.
Here is the rss feed that caused me problems:
http://www.wired.com/news_drop/netcenter/netcenter.rdf
Luckily I caught it before I totally ran out of memory, but it used up QUITE a bit....
Also, I had just cleared my buffer a short while before this happened.
QuoteThis just happened to me today with the latest beta (0.12) as well.
JS,
Please post anything to do with 0.12.0 in the beta testing forum. Not in here until it is realesed. But the proplem is in the feed itself not Todayplus.
Thanks,
Lordtwisted 8)
Quote from: LordtwistedQuoteThis just happened to me today with the latest beta (0.12) as well.
JS,
Please post anything to do with 0.12.0 in the beta testing forum. Not in here until it is realesed. But the proplem is in the feed itself not Todayplus.
Thanks,
Lordtwisted 8)
Please read through the posts before you comment.
It's a common problem ("bug") & nothing I posted above shows anything specifically related to the beta, so I'm fine with that.
PM me if you have any comments. I believe this thread is for bugs.
I am a new user trying to get the RSS feeds to work and having the same trouble as everyone else
I was wondering is it could be a proxy server? I know that I am behind a proxy at work. I don't know if that will affect anything or not (Weather still works) but I thought I would bring it up.
Had the same problem with version 0.11 the file rss.txt.1.html grew up to 111MB!!!! Where did my PDA got all that memory, don't know, but it made my do a hardreset twice before I found the problem. I had the last setting for the RSS set to 10... it seems that that is a common issue between all that have had this problem.
I just saw this problem on my ver .11 software. Luckily, I have my TodayPlus and buffer on the SD Card so it just filled up the last 40 Meg of the Card.
My cache was only set to 3. (Whatever that really means?) RSS site was different than anybody has mentioned but I can't recall which rss.txt file was the culprit.
To remedy I just stuck the card into a Card Drive, deleted the file and did a Scan Disk & Defrag. Seems OK now.
Maybe a cap can be set to prevent this from happening. On the other hand you mite be prevented from getting all the information you want.
There is suppose to be a limit on the amount of data that will be retrieved when getting the HTML page for an RSS feed (I think its ~100KB per page), but apparently there is a bug in the code that prevents this from working correctly.