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Started by Yogiman, February 01, 2004, 10:00:41 AM

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jhollin1138

Quote from: yvesrnMy 2c are if SRS doesn't return in a month that you all distribute v12 to the community.  

While I respect you not wanting to release v12 because SRS is the developer, neither did he provide instructions NOT to release v12.  It should be released at some point.  We can't assume we know what he wants because he is no longer communicating with the forum.

Actually we are instructed not to release pre-release versions.  The below quote is taken directly from a sticky at the top of the Beta Testers forum page (btw, only a certain group of us can access this forum).

Quote3. Do not distribute pre-release versions of TodayPlus outside this forum - srs will release it to the wider public when he's comfortable it is functioning to his satisfaciton.
Jim H

joelw135

As many members have posted  "WE hope srs is OK" I feel real bad that a program as useful as TodayPlus will be like a fine work of art locked in someones private gallery, where the rest of the world can't enjoy it. I hope srs is checking in and seeing that we indeed need him to complete his work of art, so the world mite enjoy. As the old saying goes "From MY Lips to Gods ears".
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fishboy

Quote from: jhollin1138Actually we are instructed not to release pre-release versions. The below quote is taken directly from a sticky at the top of the Beta Testers forum page (btw, only a certain group of us can access this forum).

Quote:
3. Do not distribute pre-release versions of TodayPlus outside this forum - srs will release it to the wider public when he's comfortable it is functioning to his satisfaciton.

I don't want and hope I don't start a debate at this time, but I did want to point at that item #3 in the Beta Testers Forum was written by arbitrajeu, and not srs, as a guideline.  There is no indication of an "official" endorsement by srs (although it makes sense to believe this implied).  This was most likely put in place to avoid a premature release of a beta version before it was ready, to avoid additional support headaches.  This may not apply if no future version are planned.
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Nielsracing

I suggest that v0.12 is only available for the members of the Beta-testing forum. I really hope that nothing have happened to srs. I am convinced that he would start a thread or something about his opinion and what he wants to do with the program before the program quits running.
Again, please do not release the things that are discussed on the Beta-Testing forum. Maybe Eitel has something to say about this, he is the creator of this forum so I'll wait what he has got to say about this.
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Lordtwisted

Like i said i will not reales it unless srs is cool about it, it's just talk bro.


Lordtwisted :D

fishboy

I'm with LT.  Doesn't hurt to talk about it and get feedback, but at this time I have no plans to release any versions without SRS's consent.
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Nielsracing

Quote from: LordtwistedLike i said i will not reales it unless srs is cool about it, it's just talk bro.


Lordtwisted :D

Ok bro :D  LOL
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joelw135

Not to sound obnoxious, but many of us have spent countless hours in this forum helping other members, even more hours than some members of the official beta test team. So how can you come and make such senseless remark. You shouldn't be addressing such a thing without srs!

Quote from: NielsracingI suggest that v0.12 is only available for the members of the Beta-testing forum. .
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Scotty

IMHO, nothing should be released (no, not even to the official beta testers, Nielsracing  :wink: ) without srs' explicit consent. Anything else would run contrary to the oft-stated opinions of many on this board - that TodayPlus is srs', to do with as he sees fit.

I do, of course, join with everyone in hoping that nothing bad has happened to srs, preventing his returning here.

Scotty.

Nielsracing

Whoops I think that you misunderstand me. Maybe it's my fault but it is hard to express my feelings in English...
What I ment, is that if you are a Beta Tester, you have access to V0.12. I ment that that is not a version that must be released to the rest of the members, untill srs wants to. So don't get me wrong, srs is the only one who can decide what will happen to Todayplus.
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Scotty

Sorry about the misunderstanding. To further complicate matters, according to some posts in this thread, there are at least 2 versions of 0.12 -- one of them expires, the other doesn't...............
All the best......Scotty

joelw135

The whole thing boils down to one thing! srs has sole right to this program and what happens to it.   Just because you are a Beta tester doesn't give you ownership, if we look at  the facts, then LT is the only one with a version that doesn't expire, given to him by srs, then he is the only one that should have it. But no person should have priority over another, in choosing who gets what. let's wait and see what srs says, and wants to do.

Sorry for the way I seem to be yelling, but I don't like hearing things like this at this time in the game, it only causes more decent in the ranks. As far as I am concerned srs is on vacation!!
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yvesrn

This is not a new eventuality, but it bears mentioning.  Come February 29th, (or thereabout) v.0.11 will expire leaving everyone except for LT with a working copy of TodayPlus.  Unless SRS comes back this means the death of this forum and TodayPlus as everyone will no longer be able to use the application.  

Should we start the death march?
Do not go where the path may lead, go instead where there is no path
and leave a trail. - Ralph Waldo Emerson

arbitrajeu

Quote from: yvesrnShould we start the death march?
Seems a bit premature.

I'm hoping that srs is just leaving us long enough to "learn our lesson".  The whole reason he didn't ever agree to take our money was because he didn't want to feel duty-bound to maintain the application.  That said, I'm sure he never intended to leave us with a non-working version when he'd had enough.  My only fear is that the unreasonable way people responded to the expiry dates made srs think his worst nightmare had been realised, and he was obligated to support it.  I'm keeping quiet and also hoping srs is well and will choose to return.
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Cratos

You can still run TD+ after expiration, right? All you have to do is change your date back before you reset your device. Then TD+ will come up and then you can set your date to the correct date again.
-Cratos